Tucker Carlson released an interview Thursday with the former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund to discuss the intelligence and security failures surrounding the Jan. 6, 2021 riot at the U.S. Capitol Building.
While Carlson was still employed at Fox News, he recorded an interview with Sund which the network never aired and which he no longer owns.
Now that Carlson has launched his own independent show “Tucker on Twitter,” he invited Sund to his studio to conduct a second interview about what he saw and experienced on Jan. 6.
Sund told Carlson that in the days leading up to Jan. 6, he was not made privy to intelligence concerning threats against police officers, members of Congress, or an attack on the Capitol Building.
Sund said he was told that the Jan. 6 rally would be like prior Trump rallies, where there were limited skirmishes between Trump supporters and counter-protestors.
Since Jan. 6, Sund says that we know now that the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, and the military had intelligence related to those threats and did not share them with the Capitol Police intelligence agency.
“On Sunday and Monday, they had been discussing locking down the city… because of the concern for violence. You know who issues the permits on Capitol Hill for demonstrations? I do,” Sund told Carlson. “You know, who wasn’t told? Me.”
“Instead, on January 4th, what does [former acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller] do? He puts out a memo restricting the National Guard from carrying the various weapons, any weapons, any civil disobedience equipment that would be utilized for the very demonstrations or violence that he sees coming. It just doesn’t make any sense,” Sund said.
Sund told Carlson that he had handled several similar events, but that Jan. 6 was handled differently by intelligence agencies.
“I’ve done many national special security events, and this was handled differently. No intelligence, no [joint intelligence briefing], no coordination, no discussion in advance,” Sund said. “It’s almost like they wanted it to be watered down, the intelligence to be watered down for some reason”
Sund released a book in January of this year detailing his personal account of Jan. 6, entitled “Courage Under Fire: Under Siege and Outnumbered 58 to 1 on January 6,” in which he says he requested the assistance of the National Guard three days before the rally, but was denied.
Sund told Carlson that he was denied the request for the National Guard by Lt. Gen. Walter Piatt because Piatt did not like the “optics” of the National Guard on Capitol Hill.
“This sounds like a setup to me, I’m sorry, it does,” Carlson responded.
“Look, under pressure people make mistakes and make bad decisions,” he added. “But you’re describing a systematic denial of intelligence and then of support, defense, through a whole bunch of different agencies, a whole bunch of different people, all reaching the same baffling conclusion that we’re not going to protect the Capitol.”